Quote Originally Posted by C.O.Prodigy View Post
Fair enough mate.

And yup Baseball is in the dumps or was in the dumps for a long time. I started watching it again anyway, I guess that for what it's worth there are guys who just like to crush the ball and to steal the base and to talk baseball and to play baseball for themselves.
I totally understand about Boston, Kevin Youkilis can never replace Manny. Plus the dodgers are in first place and Manny again somehow plays for your home team, since now you are in LA.
I get where you are coming from and why you are so gutted. I started watching again cause I love baseball and cause of guys like Rafael Furcal and Ichiro Suzuki, Nelson Cruz, younger guys who seem to love the sport and the technique more then the muscle and the long ball. Again saying that Nelson Cruz was in the HR derby final but he is not a big guy. Baseball is bigger then juicing, and I only figured that out when I started playing baseball with some enthusiasts in my home town. When you start playing you start watching it differently also. Before I also couldn't stand to watch it, so yes I understand your cynicism. I talk to much....
i agree with most of what you are saying. it IS bigger than the juicing. it's just such a shame that MLB and the players union deliberately put their heads in the sand on the juicing rumors and refused to do anything about it until forced to.

youk is pretty damned good, but yeah, manny is one of the best power hitters of his era. we looked like we were doing well without him, but then daisuke and a couple other pitchers got hurt, and jason bay got into a slump, so now we're struggling to get the wild card. but have a chance to get revenge on the yankees this weekend!