**** MINIMAL

[gunjack]

I'd like to publicly apologise to everyone for my statements above. At the time I honestly didn't think this group would have been started by Ben but I've just found out it has been. My reaction was based around the fact I thought this was some bored kid wanting attention.

Ben is someone I respect massively and if that's the way he feels, that's the way he feels. He definitely has the authority in my book to voice his opinion on a Facebook group.

Sorry guys.

*Mark crawls back under his rock*

damn i wonder how many gunjack haters back pedal as fast as this when simsy drops "murda" at a gig hahahahahahah

[Darkmode]

I'd like to publicly apologise to everyone for my statements above. At the time I honestly didn't think this group would have been started by Ben but I've just found out it has been. My reaction was based around the fact I thought this was some bored kid wanting attention.

Ben is someone I respect massively and if that's the way he feels, that's the way he feels. He definitely has the authority in my book to voice his opinion on a Facebook group.

Sorry guys.

*Mark crawls back under his rock*

You don't have to apologise at tall mate ;-)

As I say I feel Ben's frustration about Minimal & so do a lot of other well known Techno artists fair play to him for having the balls to set up a group & speak about it on facebook!

[The_Laughing_Man]

I'd like to publicly apologise to everyone for my statements above. At the time I honestly didn't think this group would have been started by Ben but I've just found out it has been. My reaction was based around the fact I thought this was some bored kid wanting attention.

Ben is someone I respect massively and if that's the way he feels, that's the way he feels. He definitely has the authority in my book to voice his opinion on a Facebook group.

Sorry guys.

*Mark crawls back under his rock*

what difference does it make that Sims started the post? You were against it until then.
Some bored kids opinion is just as valid as Sims. He`s just a man.
No point back peddling for political reasons, Ben is a big man, I`m sure he can cope with someone disagreeing with him (he is an essex boy after all, where calling your mate a wanker can be a term of endearment), it doesn`t mean you ****ed his mum.
Retracting your statement just because the page was started by Sims ends up appearing a bit, erm, false.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

what difference does it make that Sims started the post? You were against it until then.
Some bored kids opinion is just as valid as Sims. He`s just a man.
No point back peddling for political reasons, Ben is a big man, I`m sure he can cope with someone disagreeing with him (he is an essex boy after all, where calling your mate a wanker can be a term of endearment), it doesn`t mean you ****ed his mum.
Retracting your statement just because the page was started by Sims ends up appearing a bit, erm, false.

i totally see what you're saying there. but the plain fact is, if i knew it was ben that started that, i don't think i would have layed into it with such force and in that tone, cause i know him and i respect him. the last thing i want to do on the net is start a web slag match with ppl i actually respect. i thought it was some silly jumped up kid with with a hidden agenda who just had a bee in his bonnet.. that's the way the comments on the front page of the group came across to me when i clicked the link. i should have researched more but i didnt have the time to flick through every page....

i still believe setting up a club against a certain group of ppl is a totally negative, wrong way of doing things. you simply can't pigeon hole all the dj's who've jumped ship like that. since i've realised this was ben i've checked the site more and i actually do agree with alot of what is said in the info page, but it's all said in a negative, conflict inducing way that is gonna achieve nothing imho. i'm not apologising for the principles of what i'm saying, i'm just apologising for the way i said it...

look, surely there is a better way of getting this **** minimal point across???? that, is the whole reason is set up the 'MINIMAL [NO HYPE]' forum up....

[SlavikSvensk]

As I say I feel Ben's frustration about Minimal & so do a lot of other well known Techno artists fair play to him for having the balls to set up a group & speak about it on facebook!

what does one gain by being "frustrated" by minimal?

seems to me like, if you don't really care for it, you don't have to play it.

[Darkmode]

what does one gain by being "frustrated" by minimal?

seems to me like, if you don't really care for it, you don't have to play it.

I'm frustrated with it as it has done the Techno scene more harm than good I'm totally passionate for Techno & I don't like what it has done to the Techno scene

[The_Laughing_Man]

i totally see what you're saying there. but the plain fact is, if i knew it was ben that started that, i don't think i would have layed into it with such force and in that tone, cause i know him and i respect him. the last thing i want to do on the net is start a web slag match with ppl i actually respect. i thought it was some silly jumped up kid with with a hidden agenda who just had a bee in his bonnet.. that's the way the comments on the front page of the group came across to me when i clicked the link. i should have researched more but i didnt have the time to flick through every page....

i still believe setting up a club against a certain group of ppl is a totally negative, wrong way of doing things. you simply can't pigeon hole all the dj's who've jumped ship like that. since i've realised this was ben i've checked the site more and i actually do agree with alot of what is said in the info page, but it's all said in a negative, conflict inducing way that is gonna achieve nothing imho. i'm not apologising for the principles of what i'm saying, i'm just apologising for the way i said it...

look, surely there is a better way of getting this **** minimal point across???? that, is the whole reason is set up the 'MINIMAL [NO HYPE]' forum up....

Ironically, Sims plays minimal in his sets anyway.
I`m sure the man is just having a laugh.

[gunjack]

its teh intrenetz. thas what iz for...

[MITA]

gunny i hate you

[gunjack]

hate it up brudda

[CTRLS]

I think its mighty weird when UNDERGROUND legends attempt to tell others what to do. Never made much sense to me, since they were the ones that originally went against the flow. Unless anyone seriously wants to boycott minimal instead of just promoting the music they like i dont see what moaning about it is gonna do. That group certainly doesnt do much service to the anti minimal crowd. 'YEAH **** MINIMAL **** YAH' bunch of children.

first post btw, nice forum and interresting emoticons hehe

[koma]

welcome CTRLS

i agree with your post btw. in the year 2009 people are still moaning about minimal, like, hello? its simply nonsense. they all should rather produce some interesting, fresh records.

[DannyBlack]

yh I agr wth tht stmt cmpltly- mnml is th nw mximm. FCT!

[teknofilth]

all those who are so anti minimal,what you think it has done to the techno scene etc..if you are that bothered what are you doing about it? making an alternative sound? putting on nights promoting what you perceive to be techno? starting a collective? or what ? so much negativity for no reason..
..turn it into something positive for techno's sake(!)

[Martin Dust]

People should get out a bit more, there's bigger things to worry about than shit tracks and DJ's with to much time on their hands.

[gunjack]

uh huh. i am with the dog on this one...

[The_Laughing_Man]

I think people shouldget so angry about minimal they start killing other people.
Minimal rage.
Violence, and blood, lots of blood, and pure hatred, is the only answer.
Actions speak louder than words.

[gunjack]

uummm yea dude.

[The_Laughing_Man]

Obviously it`s the only way.
Minimal is a threat to all things decent and techno, this is a war on a way of life, Minimal is killing children.

[gunjack]

i think you need to lay off that crack, you tense, sarcastic sourpuss.