tsk tsk time to go back to the history books. kraftwerk was probably the single biggest influence on techno, and the single most imporant precursor to techno for its originators. but cybotron no more sounds "just like kraftwerk" than chuck berry sounds "just like cab caloway." nor, for that matter, was kraftwerk at the vanguard of a specific, local music movement--like both chuck berry and cybotron were. this is how musicologists date the start of things.