wheres the fat basslines gone

[Lag]

but theres a lot of great music out there that isnt very musical. i dont think people should get hung up on the muso thing too much.. what makes great music isnt the chord progressions its the effect it has on the listener.. im a musician thru and thru m8 and i still love hertz stuff. im also a huge fan of dead can dance, doesnt mean i think they're any better than hertz because they're better musicians.

i know plenty of good musicians who couldnt get a track going.. yet i know lads that can only play 3 note basslines but have written some of the best tunes i've ever heard.

rythm is music too
music is voice + melody + rythm
all should be complicated and harmonic
if one is missing, the other two can make up for it
someone even likes just two (like i dont like vocals)

but dude, one cant make up for two elements missing
its almost impossible

if u look back, im sure ull realise that techno didnt become big because it was hard. it became big, because its emotions were strong. when there was no emotions left, just the hard punching kick and some empty melodies to fill the space around it - techno died out

[rhythmtech]

if u look back, im sure ull realise that techno didnt become big because it was hard. it became big, because its emotions were strong. when there was no emotions left, just the hard punching kick and some empty melodies to fill the space around it - techno died out

m8.. i never once thought techno had to be hard.. in fact if i hear anything over 145 i start getting the shakes

i love melodic techno, i think that techno should have music to it. but what im saying is that musicians dont have to be accomplished musos to write a great tune. look at the punk scene.. some of my fave music ever has come from punk.. and bar 1 or 2 bands (subhumans for one) most punk bands played pretty simplistic stuff. it was about attitude and attitude coming across in music. i think hertz has a certain attitude to his music.. a lot of people will cite him as a favourite producer because of the amount of funk that he generates in a tune. he certainly isnt just a big kick and some loops.

i know this cause if he was i wouldnt be bothered listening.

[Lag]

m8.. i never once thought techno had to be hard.. in fact if i hear anything over 145 i start getting the shakes

i love melodic techno, i think that techno should have music to it. but what im saying is that musicians dont have to be accomplished musos to write a great tune. look at the punk scene.. some of my fave music ever has come from punk.. and bar 1 or 2 bands (subhumans for one) most punk bands played pretty simplistic stuff. it was about attitude and attitude coming across in music. i think hertz has a certain attitude to his music.. a lot of people will cite him as a favourite producer because of the amount of funk that he generates in a tune. he certainly isnt just a big kick and some loops.

i know this cause if he was i wouldnt be bothered listening.

punk is a music of vocals and attitude
it doesnt have to do anything with music
while techno, since its creatioin, was all about music
so you cant actually compare the two

and you keep missing the point. yes, hertz has melodies. yes, hertz is funky. but dude, its simple as it gets. as i said, its just tunes to fill the space around the kick.
u can sing out any hertz tune
try singing out james ruskin - profile =P

[rhythmtech]

im gonna back out of this now for 2 reasons.

a. i really cant get my head around your attitude. i love all types of techno. i dont discount any techno because of simplicity. if its good its good. simple.

and 2. im tired

[rhythmtech]

and techno is ALL about attitude. techno without attitude may aswell be pop music.

[dirty_bass]

techno is ALL about attitude.

As soon as you define it, and give it parameters, it stops becoming techno.
I think it should be fluid, constantly changing, and "futuristic" as EG likes to say.
To suggest it all should have attitude, takes away the stuff that works on a different level, the spacey stuff
the moody, downbeat stuff
the psychadelic
the laid back

It`s more than just attitude.

[rhythmtech]

As soon as you define it, and give it parameters, it stops becoming techno.
I think it should be fluid, constantly changing, and "futuristic" as EG likes to say.
To suggest it all should have attitude, takes away the stuff that works on a different level, the spacey
the moody, downbeat stuff
the psychadelic
the laid back

It`s more than just attitude.

attitude can be a lot of differant things. music can have a spacey attitude, a moody attitude, phychadelic attitude or a laid back attitude... dont take the meaning of the word in its literal sense.

and as soon as you stop putting parameters on something it stops being what it was and starts becoming something else, as much as that might upset your ideas about what techno should/shouldnt be, its the truth... if i make techno that has an electro arrangement, uses electro sounds and gets electro fans excited then surely i've just made electro?

if this isnt true then y did you publicly state something about you not making "techno" (cant remember the exact description you used for it)? surely then you can make what you want and its still techno?