RUMOUR: Amato have gone bust

[theledge]

You're wrong there, and you should really do more research on this to find out why. First of all, find out the sales figures of good selling Neuton labels, for instance, are doing.. and see if any of those people believe or are resigned to the fact that vinyl is on the way out... they're not.

Also, vinyl is not reliant on dance music or techno to survive, so to somehow suggest this is being a bit naive.

fair enough on the second point - although the collapse of (yet another) distributor would suggest things aren't exactly too rosy in the techno vinyl market, wouldn't it?

I'd love to see some sales figures though - would you like to share any? (PM if you prefer)

I'm not sure this is the place for yet another vinyl/mp3 discussion, but sheer cost of producing and distributing vinyl isn't doing anything for getting ground breaking, original music out there...

[Sunil]

fair enough on the second point - although the collapse of (yet another) distributor would suggest things aren't exactly too rosy in the techno vinyl market, wouldn't it?

I don't know the circumstances, and personally I never had the need to use Amato as a distributor; so while I feel for the people that have lost out here, I'm not reading into it too much.

I'd love to see some sales figures though - would you like to share any? (PM if you prefer)

Well, I could give examples of a few labels, minimal ones mind..

Marco Carola's new label for instance (2M I think is the name, can't remember) is pitching itself as a "limited to 2,000 copies label"

Minimise regularly do in excess of 2,000.

I could go on, but lets just say that 2,000 ain't bad... and these are before you get to your Poker Flats and Minuses etc.

As for other techno labels - there are many people who are regularly selling out of 500+ presses.

Ok, so the market is favouring minimal big style, and the deeper sound has enjoyed a new wind... but it still proves that there is a vinyl market, and a fruitful one for some labels.

I really wish there were more techno releases out for sure, but I do know that good techno releases can and do still sell... on vinyl. A lot of it comes down to distributors - some are *really* good and consistent, others can be just totally hopeless.

[RDR]

fruitful one for some labels.

2000+ as fruitful?

Can we hear ourselves here?

Cripes.

[Sunil]

2000+ as fruitful?

Can we hear ourselves here?

Cripes.

I'm a bit lost, what are you saying?

[RDR]

I'm a bit lost, what are you saying?

2000 records is NOTHING in terms of sales, not set against other genres of music.

[Sunil]

2000 records is NOTHING in terms of sales, not set against other genres of music.

What are you getting at here? I don't get your point, I don't see any relevance to what you're saying actually. Something to do with 2,000 or so not being good (in comparison to ther genres) sales figures? 2,000 + is good for any electronic label in this day and age. Maybe you and people like Dirty Bass want to continue telling people where 'we' are headed and how grim things are (I don't know?)...continue on if you like, I hope people are listening to you and making you feel right.

[RDR]

What are you getting at here? I don't get your point, I don't see any relevance to what you're saying actually. Something to do with 2,000 or so not being good (in comparison to ther genres) sales figures? 2,000 + is good for any electronic label in this day and age. Maybe you and people like Dirty Bass want to continue telling people where 'we' are headed and how grim things are (I don't know?)...continue on if you like, I hope people are listening to you and making you feel right.

So you cant see the correlation between low sales figures and the topic of this thread?

2,000 + is good for any electronic label in this day and age.

Im sure it is. But how many sales does the average label in ANY genre make?

...continue on if you like

.. ok, now that you've said i can, its made it better.

I hope people are listening to you and making you feel right.

**** me for analysing how things are going, i wasnt aware that i wasnt allowed to do that mate.

FFS wind your neck in. If you have a personal beef with me then by all means go onto PMs, I guess the same goes for DB. Public slanging matches are pretty sordid.