Vinyl Most Desirable Format

[stjohn]

i wonder when wav's or other PCM files will be more widespread. i wouldnt mind paying for those. you know you are getting full quality music that will play well in a club. 40 mb is alot i suppose, but external HD's could become liek a crate of records!! similarly a case of DVDs could be organised your own personal way, therefore providing some kind of material ownership!

[eyeswithoutaface]

exactly

i know alot of people who play digital sets but refuse point blank to play mp3's. they'l play WAV only, and it's easily done, hard drive space isnt a problem in this day and age and neither is portability. Which i must add is still a problem with vinyl, no one actually likes carrying vinyl, if they say they do they are just being devils advocate, unless they just want to look "cool" carrying a bag of records into a club hehe

and i must say, no ones ever stolen an mp3 off me laptop when ive turned around in the dj booth to grab my beer, damn those notorious vinyl thieves

[detfella]

i think i'm in the minority, i dont care what format music comes on, if there is a tangible product or if 'digital doesn't sound as good as analogue'. but thats cos i'm interested in the musical content not the production/sound quality.

[the_psychologist]

i think i'm in the minority, i dont care what format music comes on, if there is a tangible product or if 'digital doesn't sound as good as analogue'. but thats cos i'm interested in the musical content not the production/sound quality.

well, i understand what you're saying, but the format does affect the sound quality, which then affects the integrity of the artist's work. but moaning about 320 rate MP3s is ridiculous. they sound really good, and way better than old crackly vinyl. just IMO.

re: filesize of WAVs - hopefully people will start being more selective and quit leeching everything known to man. i think it's better to have 100 tracks in WAV than 1000 in 192 MP3. people are so hung up on having everything, and you never learn your tunes that way.

**** it. we're not really exploring new territory here.

[davethedrummer]

as usual getting it completely wrong.

people want quality. high quality. they want something that means something.

theres a world of difference between my Led Zeppelin Collection on vinyl and having the same tunes in some file on some PC.

I have the aesthetic experience of looking at the artwork, of placing the vinyl on the platter of experiencing a superior quality analogue sound.

that what is missing quality and in my opinion love.

look at the old acid techno labels Pull The Strings , specially designed sleeve covers.

It used to be the same for Routemaster and suf. Specially Designed Sleeves and Artwork.
All you get know is some boring old black sleeve. There's no passion, no involvement anymore. That is what is missing.
I hear the lame arguments it costs too much to do this that and the other.
Bullshit. Poeple just don't care enough.

donations please!

[davethedrummer]

exactly

i know alot of people who play digital sets but refuse point blank to play mp3's. they'l play WAV only, and it's easily done, hard drive space isnt a problem in this day and age and neither is portability. Which i must add is still a problem with vinyl, no one actually likes carrying vinyl, if they say they do they are just being devils advocate, unless they just want to look "cool" carrying a bag of records into a club hehe

and i must say, no ones ever stolen an mp3 off me laptop when ive turned around in the dj booth to grab my beer, damn those notorious vinyl thieves

i've never had a record stolen in a club
i have to admit

[RDR]

i've never had a record stolen in a club
i have to admit

You're a big lad though eh? :Yes:

[BRADLEE]

I love records...I dont mind playing wave files, hate Mp3's (they are evil)...but there's nothing like the hands on feel and the entertainment value of a good DJ up there with records...Just something about it.

[massplanck]

:lol:

i forgot to mention your modesty aswell.

[massplanck]

Scott is hot.

[massplanck]

FLAC is the future of digital formats surely?

[RDR]

In my mind its all about the method of playback. Thats what DJing fully depends on. Without the ability to manipulate it fully I just dont want to know.

On a personal level I HATE playing with traktor or ableton, Its not my method - Final scratch and Serato are more my thing.

But all of that is the USER end experience of playback, and although closely tied in with the purchase of the material it is still disconnected from the delivery, distribution and creation.

Like i've said before actually getting a record to the point it could be sold was (and still is if im honest) a minefield. The process of creating vinyl is (when managed without skank merchants at every turn) a beautiful thing indeed. However its also extremely expensive.

http://www.investopedia.com/universi...economics3.asp

This may be a boring read to some of you, but it really does have relevance in this argument.

The production of music and the way its finds itself onto the dancefloor/ipod/listener does not depend on the handful of cutting houses/rip off merchants..oops, sorry distros../grumpy record shop owners that it did before.

There are so many amazing musicians out there that never had the chance to get their music to a wider audience, from all over the world.

[rhythmtech]

vinyl costs me between 8 and 12 euro. i dont have 8 or 12 euro to spend on hundreds of vinyl - for me the choice is obvious.

[Si the Sigh]

vinyl costs me between 8 and 12 euro. i dont have 8 or 12 euro to spend on hundreds of vinyl - for me the choice is obvious.

Sell your ass?

[massplanck]

vinyl costs me between 8 and 12 euro. i dont have 8 or 12 euro to spend on hundreds of vinyl - for me the choice is obvious.

Yeah. but its funny how people could afford it before mp3!

[rhythmtech]

Sell your ass?

it aint worth much :xfrown:

[rhythmtech]

Yeah. but its funny how people could afford it before mp3!

and when it was 5 euro and b4 i had a kid and a mortgage to pay for :xconfused:

[eyeswithoutaface]

i've never had a record stolen in a club
i have to admit

i've had in total about ten records stolen out of my bag in various clubs, most notably in Lakota bristol. Some scary inbreds in that place, and a few of them are a few techno records better off now too

i'd never seen lad's with earrings in both ears before i dj'd there

scary

[RDR]

Yeah. but its funny how people could afford it before mp3!

Sorry man, I think thats like saying its funny that people could afford horses before they could afford cars.

[massplanck]

How many vinyls do you own chris?