something deffo needs done...

[RDR]

it's also the promotor's responsibilty to do their homework prior to booking an act.

:lol: Like Kells didnt know who they were booking?

They pay the act, they say what goes. I could unerstand if you think that speedy j wasnt capable of that music or had never played anything like the sort of techno that Kells et all were after, but thats not the case.

Now im not saying that promoters dont pay attention to the type of music that an artist is currently producing, but they have a bunch of puinters to make happy, not the blasted acts. Thats taken as read innit - they get paid, they're happy. If they do a 2hr appearance for 500 quid (probably more with SJ) then they can bloody well do as they're told (within reason of course and set by negotiation)

Superstar attitude? Not when your paying their 4-5star hotel room, providing transport, flight costs and paying them.

[Stella Boy]

:lol: Like Kells didnt know who they were booking?

where did I say he didn't know who he was booking :xconfused:

[Aratron]

its 2007 now, not 1991. some folk have moved on. hence why 20 people went to watch him play.

[markandrew]

its 2007 now, not 1991. some folk have moved on. hence why 20 people went to watch him play.

you need to go an see him mate total respect for speedy j don t need to say anymore and i think everyone will agree even if he does play alot of minimal now

[Microdot]

its 2007 now, not 1991. some folk have moved on. hence why 20 people went to watch him play.

I've got 100% respect for Speedy J. but there's definitely some truth in what you're saying.

[Kells]

I've got 100% respect for Speedy J. but there's definitely some truth in what you're saying.

Some truth in that for sure, but stilll, Speedy is one of the busiest of all the djs, after speaking with him i can vouch for that!

Loads iof folk came especially to see him play @ Joy, we had a hell of alot of people calling about the event and asking about him, even after the event we had calls asking when the bloody event was...which is annoying !!

i dont think it would have mattered what DJ was on that night (where 20 people turned up), would have prob only been the same amount of folk their no matter what DJ was on

[Microdot]

thing is, its not just in the Techno scene this is happening.
In the past couple of years, in addition to many half empty Techno clubs, I've seen DJ Premier play to about 200 ppl, Flavor Flav entertain a crowd of about 50, and most shocking of all, Clipse in Leeds with a couple hundred there.. less than 200..one of the best live sets I've ever mind.

Radio One, MTV, Channel 4 etc have been pushing Rock music hard the past couple years, and alot of kids wanna go see bands instead these days..

[Kells]

thing is, its not just in the Techno scene this is happening.
In the past couple of years, in addition to many half empty Techno clubs, I've seen DJ Premier play to about 200 ppl, Flavor Flav entertain a crowd of about 50, and most shocking of all, Clipse in Leeds with a couple hundred there.. less than 200..one of the best live sets I've ever mind.

Radio One, MTV, Channel 4 etc have been pushing Rock music hard the past couple years, and alot of kids wanna go see bands instead these days..

Thing is, alot of the major citys, and Leeds for one are full of students who mainly wanna go to where they can show off their latest clothes and sunglasses, and obviously they all go to the same place as the rest of the students....alot of it now is not about the music anymore, its a shame but this is how it is, things like Mixmag dont help either,
To these people, the djs we think are big are almost or even totally unknown to them, unless of course they are big in ibiza or mixmag etc...

funny thing is, these kids think they are listening to techno, and half the time its anything but that!!!

[The Overfiend]

thing is, its not just in the Techno scene this is happening.
In the past couple of years, in addition to many half empty Techno clubs, I've seen DJ Premier play to about 200 ppl, Flavor Flav entertain a crowd of about 50, and most shocking of all, Clipse in Leeds with a couple hundred there.. less than 200..one of the best live sets I've ever mind.

Radio One, MTV, Channel 4 etc have been pushing Rock music hard the past couple years, and alot of kids wanna go see bands instead these days..

That's very true same thing is happening here in the states.
MTV pushes the emo thing to the fore front and everyone else is following trends that they see on Sucker Free
So while Primo and Mobb Deep used to fill stadiums they could hardly fill a poetry club now.
Maybe we need to get someone to infiltrate mixmag and jockeyslut and whatever other mag there are.
Truth be told.

[RDR]

thing is, its not just in the Techno scene this is happening.
In the past couple of years, in addition to many half empty Techno clubs, I've seen DJ Premier play to about 200 ppl, Flavor Flav entertain a crowd of about 50, and most shocking of all, Clipse in Leeds with a couple hundred there.. less than 200..one of the best live sets I've ever mind.

Radio One, MTV, Channel 4 etc have been pushing Rock music hard the past couple years, and alot of kids wanna go see bands instead these days..

The rock scene certainly is bigger than the last few years, things come round again and as ever its the perception of a certain type of music that matters to these kids and also where all the other kids go. Remember that even though they go to these nights its a mini meat market to them. Just go and stand outside the under 18s night at the Wely Club in Hull and watch em roll out at 10pm.. its like watching the old days at the orbit empty out at 2am.

[Little_Fella!]

Loads iof folk came especially to see him play @ Joy, we had a hell of alot of people calling about the event and asking about him, even after the event we had calls asking when the bloody event was...which is annoying !!

Let's not forget 'The Advent' were on that night aswell, which I really enjoyed...

T'was a good show and people were queuing early which was a good sign... the headline acts were being mentioned by people while I stood outside, so that goes to show that they had their pulling power...

I had a good shimmy round Leeds and it is true that you have your work cut out as almost everywhere is set up for beer culture and fashion parade, which out of pure association punters will integrate in to... which means you have to increase your promotional efforts to fight against the 'sheep' mentality'... hmmm

[Kells]

Let's not forget 'The Advent' were on that night aswell, which I really enjoyed...

T'was a good show and people were queuing early which was a good sign... the headline acts were being mentioned by people while I stood outside, so that goes to show that they had their pulling power...

I had a good shimmy round Leeds and it is true that you have your work cut out as almost everywhere is set up for beer culture and fashion parade, which out of pure association punters will integrate in to... which means you have to increase your promotional efforts to fight against the 'sheep' mentality'... hmmm

Advent was fantastic :)

and what you metion here regarding leeds is spot on mate, its good you have recognised this and im glad somebody else has now highlighted this on here, its going to get worse.....watch this space, leeds will be changing even more soon....im not sure its a good thing, well im sure its not, especially for the more purist club nights like Joy....

Theirs far too many sheep in the city, who dont go out for the music...massive shame..

[RDR]

where did I say he didn't know who he was booking :xconfused:

You didnt...

sorry to pick bones kells but why book a dj/pa without knowing what they were doing at presen

oh... you did. in a way.