Welcome to the Blackout Audio Techno Forums :: Underground Network.
Results 1 to 20 of 72

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    BOA Mod
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    10,382

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    I've always had a hard time considering a set "live" if it didn't involve the playing of an instrument that wasn't sequenced.
    it isnt sequenced unless I sequence it though is it.

  2. #2
    BOA Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    NJ, USA
    Posts
    4,066

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RDR View Post
    it isnt sequenced unless I sequence it though is it.
    I just don't consider it the same as "live." I've done "live PAs" with the following setups:

    1.) 1 person on sequencer + 1 person on keyboards + 1 person on visuals.

    2.) 1 person on Traktor + 1 person on keyboards + 1 person on visuals.

    3.) 1 person on Traktor + 2 people on keyboards.

    4.) 1 person on sequencer and keyboards + 1 person on visuals.

    5.) 1 person on Ableton and keyboards + 1 person on additional Ableton rig + 2 people on circuit bent noisemakers + 1 person on visuals.

    From an audio standpoint, the only time I came close to doing a Live PA by myself was situation 4, which I only did twice. In my opinion, if there's no true way to make a noticable mistake, or to truly improvise off the cuff, it's just hard for me to consider "live."
    Last edited by tocsin; 06-02-2008 at 08:49 PM.
    A person belonging to one or more Order is just as likely to carry a flag of the counter-establishment as the flag of the establishment, just as long as it is a flag. --P.D.

  3. #3
    BOA Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    The Singularity
    Posts
    8,298

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    From an audio standpoint, the only time I came close to doing a Live PA by myself was situation 4, which I only did twice. In my opinion, if there's no true way to make a noticable mistake, or to truly improvise off the cuff, it's just hard for me to consider "live."
    I **** up a few times during a set most of the time. I am right on the limit of what I can manage though, as I try to make my pa sound like a DJ mix, and move from tune to tune fairly quickly, rather than
    start with kick
    build
    back down to kick
    next tune

    I am most definitely playing live.
    I`ve been toying with the idea of incorporating my new electronic drum kit into my live set up, but the logistics of karting that around with me is just crazy.
    I might compromise and start taking out a keyboard as well to play in some basslines
    Solitary by nature.
    Isolation is the gift.
    Does anyone have courage to stand apart any more?

    myspace.com/dirtybassgrooves
    http://www.myspace.com/dirtybassvoidloss
    http://www.subgenius.com

  4. #4
    Prince Of Warthogs
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    2,296

    Default

    i just put a cd on and go to the bar
    love your mum

  5. #5
    BOA Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    los angeles
    Posts
    2,057

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by davethedrummer View Post
    i just put a cd on and go to the bar
    hell yeah, take the peter hook approach

    :P

  6. #6
    BOA Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    The Singularity
    Posts
    8,298

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by davethedrummer View Post
    i just put a cd on and go to the bar
    Sometimes I wish I did do that.

    As an aside, when you do your squillion hour DJ sets, what do you do when you need a good shittin?
    Solitary by nature.
    Isolation is the gift.
    Does anyone have courage to stand apart any more?

    myspace.com/dirtybassgrooves
    http://www.myspace.com/dirtybassvoidloss
    http://www.subgenius.com

  7. #7
    BOA Mod
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    10,382

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dirty_bass View Post
    Sometimes I wish I did do that.

    As an aside, when you do your squillion hour DJ sets, what do you do when you need a good shittin?
    Colostomy...

    its just not my bag.

    @Tocsin - ive played with someone doing live visuals, hell I VJ myself whenever I can, but they/I use video loops a lot of the time, we're talking about music no? And by your terms its invalid the be by yourself doing a set.

    which is nonsense. sorry but it really is.

  8. #8
    BOA Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    NJ, USA
    Posts
    4,066

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RDR View Post
    @Tocsin - ive played with someone doing live visuals, hell I VJ myself whenever I can, but they/I use video loops a lot of the time, we're talking about music no? And by your terms its invalid the be by yourself doing a set.
    I'm not sure I'm following you here. I never said you couldn't do a set by yourself. From an audio point, as I said earlier, I've done it twice. For me to play live, and do live visuals at the same time, however, would be impossible for me. As for as talking about music, I thought the discussion was just about a "live PA." I've gone into how I've done my "live PA" with others. As for the visual components, yes, video loops are used. However, they aren't sequenced. I assign either a video loop, a still image, or an effect to a key on a MIDI keyboard, and then play it to the music by hand. That's not something that people will notice any "mistake" on though.
    A person belonging to one or more Order is just as likely to carry a flag of the counter-establishment as the flag of the establishment, just as long as it is a flag. --P.D.

 

 

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Back to top