Quote Originally Posted by The Overfiend View Post
No one is biggin' up anyone Steve, all you are doing is taking my feedback and manipulating it into a character assasination. You started a thread criticising the "big name" prices. Now all of the sudden it's become the usual let's save techno thread with you on the horse screaming death to all who oppose. I will not let you discredit my stance with blatant insults trying to discredit what I am saying by telling me "I don't understand the point of the thread."

I don't big up anything unless it is impressive to me, I also don't worry about anyone else's finances unless it's f*ckin with my own.

Credit Crunch Vs Arrogance of Big Names
(Why don't you stay on topic then)
Screw staying on topic, rules are there to be broken and conversations evolve, standpoints even change, as you are allowed to change your mind.

There`s no character assassination here, this isn`t about you.
It`s the colloquiel "you" I am using when I say things such as "There`s nothing wrong with big ups as well, but when you bleet like a sheep about how great everyone is all the time, it just becomes meaningless noise.
It`s all about contrasts, light means nothing without darkness"

You take offence much too quickly.

If you read my first post, it`s quite generic and not really attacking anyone in specific, nor does it point the finger at ALL big names.

Again you miss the point, as this isn`t so much worrying about the wages of the DJ`s, it`s more related to the promoters perspective.
Nor is this about saving techno, it is merely a discussion looking for solutions.
Rather than one word answers.

Looking at the big picture, and everyone involved (taking the soundsystems for example, I know a few sound hire firms going out of business, and also having to drop their fees, do the real hard sweaty work, and possibkly get less money when DJ Diva doesn`t pull in enough of a crowd but demands full fee, for example)

The point I am really trying to make is that the scene is more than the DJ`s.
Especially now, and Diva like behaviour is ugly.

I do worry about some peoples finances. Friends in the biz who have worked really really ****ing hard and are struggling. Not just DJ`s, the other people that also make things happen.
I worry about my friends and I try to help them.
A more considered approach from everyone will allow everyone to be fairly treated and still feed the kids/rent/pets/coke habit etc

Communication is everything, agree or disagree it doesn`t really matter, wrangling, praising, biting etc as long as it is handled with an adult brain and if possible, without ego, then there is no problem.