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    Quote Originally Posted by djshiva View Post
    not at all. it was a question to spur discussion, actually. i don't think access to someone else's musical output necessarily counts as a "right". but i do wonder when the artist became more important than the listener, if that clears up what i was asking..
    For me, I love it when something is final, I guess some people will never understand or accept that. It's really nothing to do with rights, would you ask Mr. Hirst to do a picture on A0 cream paper because that's what you prefer? What do you think he'd say :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Dust View Post
    For me, I love it when something is final, I guess some people will never understand or accept that. It's really nothing to do with rights, would you ask Mr. Hirst to do a picture on A0 cream paper because that's what you prefer? What do you think he'd say :)
    no offense, but i think you are interpreting my questions/comments in a much more contentious way than they are meant. i just told you that i don't think it's about rights, and yet you still responded from that interpretation.

    i am not attacking your viewpoints, nor do i think you are wrong to want to do things the way you want to do them. i was actually attempting to address things from a little different standpoint and possibly have an interesting discussion about the nature of creating music and the nature of listening to it as well. please go back and reread my last post without thinking that i am attacking you or claiming any inherent rights over your musical output, k ? :)

    everyone has made some interesting points, and it just got me thinking along some slightly different lines, and i wanted to throw some points out for discussion. you are obviously very passionate about what you do, and i appreciate that, because i am too. but sometimes our passion keeps us locked into a line of thinking that comes from a defensive standpoint, instead of looking at things objectively and just discussing for the sake of wanting to expand our thinking. that is all i was trying to accomplish with my last post.

    to add to your post, i was once told by someone that, even though i have begun to use ableton live to dj and interpret the mixes as i saw fit, if he booked me he wanted me to play vinyl, which is exactly the same point you are making about Mr Hirst and cream paper. I was entirely offended that he would ask me to express my creativity in a way that HE wanted and not how I wanted, so I do get your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djshiva View Post
    no offense, but i think you are interpreting my questions/comments in a much more contentious way than they are meant. i just told you that i don't think it's about rights, and yet you still responded from that interpretation.

    i am not attacking your viewpoints, nor do i think you are wrong to want to do things the way you want to do them. i was actually attempting to address things from a little different standpoint and possibly have an interesting discussion about the nature of creating music and the nature of listening to it as well. please go back and reread my last post without thinking that i am attacking you or claiming any inherent rights over your musical output, k ? :)

    everyone has made some interesting points, and it just got me thinking along some slightly different lines, and i wanted to throw some points out for discussion. you are obviously very passionate about what you do, and i appreciate that, because i am too. but sometimes our passion keeps us locked into a line of thinking that comes from a defensive standpoint, instead of looking at things objectively and just discussing for the sake of wanting to expand our thinking. that is all i was trying to accomplish with my last post.

    to add to your post, i was once told by someone that, even though i have begun to use ableton live to dj and interpret the mixes as i saw fit, if he booked me he wanted me to play vinyl, which is exactly the same point you are making about Mr Hirst and cream paper. I was entirely offended that he would ask me to express my creativity in a way that HE wanted and not how I wanted, so I do get your point.
    Shiva, I just try to write 5 words instead of 23, so it may seem harsh but I'm totally chilled and cool about things, I know you're not attacking me.

    I'm happy with what I'm doing and my viewpoint - it wouldn't matter to me if no-one agreed :)

 

 

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