you will shoot me for saying it but....

[AcidTrash]

Techno went up its own arse a while ago. The moment people started stigmatising tunes with a sense of humour as being hard dance or cheese.

This is why I dont bother coming out anymore. Who the hell wants to listen to 8 hours of glitched loops?

It was the drive for "intelligent techno" that screwed it all up. Feck that shoyte. I spend my weekdays chasing mice round my brain and getting wrinkles working about stuff. If I'm going out for a boogiie I want vacuous stupid predictable silliness I can bounce around to until I think my hearts going to explode.

The last tune I heard that fitted the description was Hotwire by 'is lordship. The first cheerful tune in ages.

[fatcollective]

Techno went up its own arse a while ago. The moment people started stigmatising tunes with a sense of humour as being hard dance or cheese.

This is why I dont bother coming out anymore. Who the hell wants to listen to 8 hours of glitched loops?

It was the drive for "intelligent techno" that screwed it all up. Feck that shoyte. I spend my weekdays chasing mice round my brain and getting wrinkles working about stuff. If I'm going out for a boogiie I want vacuous stupid predictable silliness I can bounce around to until I think my hearts going to explode.

The last tune I heard that fitted the description was Hotwire by 'is lordship. The first cheerful tune in ages.

u dont go to techno nights because your into scouse house ya nerd!! :rockin:

[Little_Fella!]

Techno went up its own arse a while ago. The moment people started stigmatising tunes with a sense of humour as being hard dance or cheese.

I would say 5 years ago at least this is what was going on... Not with everyone but elements of snootiness were around, which was in relation to Paul Cortex' comments there...

We didn't care tho and played all the Acid we had...

What about these babies that came from yourself Henry:

The Pusher, The Pimp & The Panther :rockin:
http://www.discogs.com/release/74820

Viagra Falls :fro:
http://www.discogs.com/release/31661

This Old World is in a Helluva Fix :psy:
http://www.discogs.com/release/56162

Hells bells, moments in time that I will never forget came from these tunes - what was going on in the studio that created these little beauties...?

Can the energy that went in to creating these tracks be harnessed again?

[phantomdj]

What are you after? techno that pushes the boundaries? Not scared to be the pioneer and actually experiment with soundscapes and the frequencies to which we are accustomed? You are right about modern techno all sounding the same. Stupid genre names like tech-house which really means (I make commercial music, but like to pretend I'm techno - the original concept))

I have a few acid techno sets from 1996 - 1998. All have crazy sounds and are experimental. hard tuneage that makes you want to stomp while your body is desperate to move in sync with each new wierd and wonderful sound. True organised chaos.

What happened to those experimental days? All the producers wanted more money and then watered down techno until it was received by a larger audience, thus rendering more income for the producers. The same thing happened in hard trance where they started producing watered down crap just to tap into the commercial market where massive income is to be earned. It does not take a brain surgeon to figure out that modern trance and techno has turned into a pathetic example of its original heritage.

It's the producers' fault and the listeners. You say things sound the same, yet you go and buy them. You know what I did when Hardcore (industrial) went all frenchcore (cheese), I stopped buying the vinyl. I made a statement with what can hurt an industry. Sure, I am only one person, but if you all made a statement, then things would change.

You produce records that won't offend people. You are scared of making a track that sounds too 'hardcore' for your commercial market, so you produce the same crap that has little invention. It's an embarrassment to the word 'Techno'.

La Peste goes to factories and records the industrial sounds he hears and also records sounds from railway lines and many other strange and diverse practices, he then goes home and manipulates the sounds and is always experimenting. How many techno producers actually get off their arse and do likewise?

I'm sick of listening to people in the street who tell me they like techno and then when I enquire further, I find out they mean some stale music at 125-140bpm with a carbon copy beat and the odd inoffensive loop every now and then.

If you want to try something that is still developing and will blow your mind, then have a click on the links below... The experimental peak of 'techno' and still pushing the boundaries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MMMhoMFs7I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAjZhI9Iow0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4GFkpKbvZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LJZdjUDd8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKOGnXf1A6Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyNQiuBKBYQ

[113]

In my opinion (and some of my friends), many DJs in the electronic scene are a bit too much in love with the form and are forgetting about the content, THE SUBSTANCE, the vibe, the spirit, the passion. We should use music to transport emotions. A good party night can be a cathartic journey through all emotional states and should be a healing experience. Thats what we working for.
Its all about expressing and evoking personal freedom, CELEBRATING LIFE!